Octave of Reason and Reasoning
2015-02-10
Our study group has spent several weeks trying to penetrate the nuances of Reason and Reasoning as these terms are used by Gurdjieff and others in a spiritual context. Like many other lines of enquiry, what initially looked to be a simple exploration has turned into a fascinating but challenging journey. Our latest attempt to wrestle some understanding out of the chaos was through using the octave. Our "first approximation" is given below... however it looks like we're several iterations away from anything resembling a coherent picture.
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shocks
somehow it seems to me that there must be kind of death at the shock points here, perhaps the physical death of the body at the second shock, and a "partial" death (i.e. the "die before you die" death) at the first shock. But I don't know if that first shock would come before intentional reasoning.
Shocks in the Octave of Reasoning
The higher shock between Si and Do is far beyond any kind of individualized experience. It probably represents the transition from World 1 to World 3 or from World 3 to World 6. The lower shock in the Mi-Fa interval is more likely, as you, Melinda, suggest, to have some sort of death experience entering at this point.
The notion of "context" as suggested by Or and expanded on by Ken is probably accurate. Seeing something in context kicks things up a level and should act as a shock. It's also generally the 'death' knell of whatever identification we were holding on to.
maybe
maybe one of the shocks is connected to realizing the context of our reasoning?
Please elaborate
Please say more about that, because it makes some intuitive sense that expanding a given reasoning process from its more narrow focus on content to a larger focus including its context requires more attention, and therefore more energy, which could be a shock to the narrower reasoning process. Thanks.